JW	Via … through Oldham and District, through the Infertility Clinic in Oldham and District General Hospital. He already had a list of infertility patients had there and after he’d met up with Bob and realised there was a chance of this working, he kept a list of patients whom he considered suitable for treatment and whenever Bob decided he would come up to Oldham, usually in the vacations, Patrick’s secretary would pull out these patients’ notes. He’d go through them and she would contact those whom he’d selected. Some of course wanted to come through..... others had given up any idea of becoming pregnant and I suppose some of them had become too old. So that’s how they were recruited.
MJ	So they generally tended to be local or were they…?
JW	Oh, not at all. No. He used to get people coming from all over.
MJ	So they would write to Patrick and he’d put them on the waiting list at Oldham General, would he?
JW	Yes. After he’d seen… these are patients he’d seen before. They didn’t just come on the waiting list to have IVF. They were patients he’d personally looked after.