E10:	Hospital management thinks it’s okay to get rid of older people. But I think it’s not okay. Treating people like that is amoral.
C11:	You say amoral and you make a clear gesture with your arm.
E11:	It makes me angry! If nobody says anything, they’ll just think that it’s okay. It’s not okay, it’s appalling!
C12:	It makes you angry, it’s appalling.
E12:	Deep down, I have to say something, but what will happen to me if I do? I also have a family at home. But I can’t just sit back.
C13:	Deep in your heart you want to say something, but you’ve got a family too.
E13:	Yes, we’re breadwinners together, so I can’t just lose my job. And I worry that I’ll be next in line if I say something. It wouldn’t be the first time.