C201	Esther, the statement “I want to stand up for the interests of the weakest” – is that something you have to do, something you would like to do or is it how you know yourself to be?
E202	Well, I definitely don’t do it all the time, I try to do it more often. I’ve sometimes spoken out in the past, but it cost me dearly. So, it’s something that I’d like to do, but I don’t have to.
C202	Is it your wish to act in such a way?
E202	Yes. So that goes on the right with the ideals?
C203	It’s up to you where you put it. You can always move it again.
E204	With the ideals, then.
C205	And how important is it to you?
E205	Very important. So, put in the middle.