Conversational Excerpt 2: An Off-topic Spiral

W.M-W.: How do you mean?  H.M.: Well, in a way that he… well… everything was, I guess… we… er…better explain it… the way…everything was OK for everyone else but… er…just what he’s done, it’s got to be just right….their … they can do anything, it doesn’t make any difference, but what I do is right, that’s … it … (emphasis in the original)  W.M-W.: I’m not…so what was he saying, what was he doing?  H.M.: Well, in a way, he was just… telling the people in a way that no matter they could think of things they wanted to and everything but … er … his way was the way. (emphasis in the original)  W.M-W.: What was his name?  H.M.: I think of Nixon right off. (After this mention of Nixon, the conversation veered further off topic to Pat Nixon, who was Nixon’s daughter rather than wife according to H.M.)