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. 2018 Jun;8(3):173–174. doi: 10.1212/CPJ.0000000000000468

Reader response: Incorporating students into clinic may be associated with both improved clinical productivity and educational value

Pete Roy 1
PMCID: PMC6075979  PMID: 30105150

The recent article by Tanner et al.1 concluding that medical students in outpatient clinic can improve productivity is surprising. As a private practice neurologist who routinely interacts with medical students in the hospital and outpatient clinic, I believe that medical students adversely affect productivity. This study was done only in academic outpatient clinics. There was no mention of clinic hours, number of scheduled patients, or patient time intervals. Without more specific scheduling information, this study seems incomplete.

A full daily schedule has no free time for students. If there was no opening in the preceptor's schedule, then preceptors were looking for something to do while waiting for the students and running behind. Alternatively, the preceptor already had an open time slot to do work while waiting for the student. In that case, the schedule was not full. If preceptors were “completing prior notes or interpreting procedures” waiting for the student, that only increases net invoices for that time period, as those tasks would have to be done anyway.

Interacting with students in the hospital typically requires more time, which results in a late arrival to the outpatient clinic, decreasing daily productivity (relative value unit [RVU] generation). RVU generation is paramount to a neurologist's income. The majority of surveyed neurologists list RVUs as a main basis of compensation.2 Burnout in neurology is high3 and finishing late by increased workload or teaching is a major contributor to this,4 particularly if compensation shrinks. Therefore, the positives from teaching come with a high cost—a direct negative effect on compensation. A future study including inpatients as well as private practice outpatient clinics would be interesting.

Footnotes

Author disclosures are available upon request (ncpjournal@neurology.org).

References

  • 1.Tanner JA, Rao KT, Salas RE, et al. Incorporating students into clinic may be associated with both improved clinical productivity and educational value. Neurol Clin Pract 2017;7:474–482. [DOI] [PMC free article] [PubMed] [Google Scholar]
  • 2.The 2017 Neurology Compensation and Productivity Survey. Available at: reporting.qualtrics.com/AAN/. Accessed January 17, 2018. [Google Scholar]
  • 3.Busis NA, Shanafelt TD, Keran CM, et al. Burn out, career satisfaction, and well-being among U.S. neurologists in 2016. Neurology 2017;88:797–808. [DOI] [PMC free article] [PubMed] [Google Scholar]
  • 4.Miyasaki JM, Rheaume C, Gulya L, et al. Qualitative study of burn out, career satisfaction, and well-being among U.S. neurologist in 2016. Neurology 2017;89:730–1738. [DOI] [PubMed] [Google Scholar]

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