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Published in final edited form as: Science. 2018 Aug 31;361(6405):eaau8230. doi: 10.1126/science.aau8230

Comment on “Innovative scattering analysis shows that hydrophobic disordered proteins are expanded in water”

Gustavo Fuertes 1,2,3,#, Niccolo Banterle 1,#, Kiersten M Ruff 4,#, Aritra Chowdhury 1,#, Rohit V Pappu 4,, Dmitri I Svergun 2, Edward A Lemke 1,5,6,
PMCID: PMC7611747  EMSID: EMS134952  PMID: 30166461

Abstract

Editors at Science requested our input on the above discussion (comment by Best et al. and response by Riback et al.) because both sets of authors use our data from Fuertes et al. (2017) to support their arguments. The topic of discussion pertains to the discrepant inferences drawn from SAXS versus FRET measurements regarding the dimensions of intrinsically disordered proteins (IDPs) in aqueous solvents. Using SAXS measurements on labeled and unlabeled proteins, we ruled out the labels used for FRET measurements as the cause of discrepant inferences between the two methods. Instead, we propose that FRET and SAXS provide complementary readouts because of a decoupling of size and shape fluctuations that is intrinsic to finite-sized, heteropolymeric IDPs. Accounting for this decoupling resolves the discrepant inferences between the two methods, thus making a case for the utility of both methods.


Quantitative descriptions of conformational ensembles of intrinsically disordered proteins (IDPs) are directly relevant for understanding the functions and cellular processes controlled by IDPs. Small-angle x-ray scattering (SAXS) and Förster resonance energy transfer (FRET) are two experimental techniques that have been widely used to quantify the overall sizes and shapes of IDPs in different milieus. The two techniques yield convergent descriptions regarding the dimensions of IDPs in high concentrations of denaturants, but they can yield discrepant inferences in the absence of denaturants (13). What is the source of these discrepant inferences? Are they caused by the dyes used in FRET measurements, as proposed by Riback et al. (4)? Or does the discrepancy come from the method of analysis of SAXS and FRET data, as proposed by Best et al. (5)?

On the basis of direct SAXS measurements of IDPs with and without dyes, we have experimentally demonstrated that the dyes are not the source of systematic biases and the discrepant inferences (1). However, as a general resolution of the conflict between SAXS and FRET, our results point to sequence-specific decoupling between end-to-end distances (R e) and radii of gyration (R g). It is important to note that R e is directly derivable from FRET data, whereas R g is directly derivable from SAXS data. FRET data cannot be used to extract R g without making a series of simplifying assumptions about the connections between R g and R e, and the converse is true of SAXS data. Indeed, much of the conflict in inferences drawn from SAXS versus FRET originates from the fact that the two methods provide access to two different quantities. When we allow for the possibility that R e and R g can be decoupled from one another because of shape fluctuations that are consequences of the finite size and the heteropolymeric nature of IDPs, we arrive at a reconciled view, which suggests that SAXS and FRET yield complementary rather than contradictory insights. Therefore, we propose that the debate should not be about the merits or demerits of the two methods. Both methods have their strengths and weaknesses; therefore, the focus should be on the growing consensus regarding methodological advances that rely on improved numerical/theoretical analysis and the use of sophisticated atomistic simulations to analyze data from SAXS and FRET measurements.

To directly test the effects of the dyes, we performed SAXS measurements with labeled and unlabeled IDPs on a series of molecules with different sequence attributes (1). We pursued global fits to analyze the relationship of measured R g and R e from several proteins giving a broader coverage of sequence space. Scaling theories suggest that R g ∝ Nv, where the critical exponent v describes how the protein dimensions scale with the number of residues (N). We agree that comparing Δv = Vlabeled – Vunlabeled is one way to detect potential dye interferences. Indeed, it is reassuring that estimates of Δv in the absence of denaturant show the lack of systematic trends in Δv. The values for Δv range from being negative to positive, and importantly, Δv is zero on average (Δv = 0.03, 0.08, 0.03, –0.02, –0.04; average 0.02 ± 0.04). To test whether this level of deviation is meaningful or lies within the experimental uncertainty, we conducted SAXS and FRET under highly denaturing conditions, where all independent assessments converge. These experiments yield similarly small Δv values ranging from positive to negative (Δv = –0.07, –0.09, –0.01, 0.04, 0.00; average –0.03 ± 0.05). Our direct measurements negate the hypothesis that the selected FRET dyes used by many groups including Fuertes et al. and Borgia et al. (1, 3) are systematic modifiers of conformational ensembles, although sequence-specific interactions involving specific dyes may prevail in some cases.

In their response, Riback et al. picked out the sequence designated as NLS from our set of IDPs for their analysis [figure 2B of (4)]. For this sequence, there is indeed a small but measurable difference between the SAXS data for unlabeled and labeled proteins. This observation is consistent with our analysis (1) but is limited to NLS, whereas other IDPs in our study showed virtually identical normalized scattering behavior for labeled versus unlabeled IDPs. Of course the label contributes a detectable increase in the molecular weight of the protein, and this is accounted for in the analysis and interpretation of the SAXS data (1). Focusing on the NLS sequence reveals a pitfall of isolating a single measurement from an entire dataset to draw general conclusions. Of all the proteins in our dataset, NLS was the only protein for which we could not perform measurements in phosphate-buffered saline (PBS) because of confounding effects of the milieu. Instead, we had to perform measurements in a zwitterionic HEPES buffer. This “complication” is in line with this particular protein being highly charged, and thus sensitivity toward certain buffers as well as charged dyes is to be expected. If one were to extrapolate from the NLS data and assert that dyes have an unambiguous perturbing effect on FRET measurements, then one would need to conclude that in general no measurements can be made for proteins in physiologically relevant PBS buffers, thus highlighting the issues one confronts with making extrapolations from a specific data point.

Having largely exonerated the dyes as the source of any form of systematic bias, we are left with the question of why the extent of contraction previously inferred from FRET is higher than from SAXS and why this difference is manifested for IDPs in the absence of denaturant. We propose that the discrepant degrees of contraction inferred from FRET versus SAXS originate in the distinct types of quantities that the two techniques measure and the assumptions used to convert between them. This proposal is consistent with issues raised by Borgia et al. (3). Converting FRET efficiency (EFRET) into an average R e value requires the use of theoretical polymer models or of ensembles derived from computer simulations. Additionally, SAXS provides inferences regarding R g, whereas FRET provides inferences regarding R e. To compare the two inferences, one simple approach is to convert between R e and R g using a multiplicative factor—for example, Rg=Re/6 for a Gaussian chain. However, all IDPs cannot be taken for granted to be Gaussian chains in different milieus.

Motivated by the dependence on polymer models for the values of R g extracted from FRET efficiencies (6,7), we abandoned the ansatz that R g and R e must be coupled by a unique constant. This is justified because (i) proteins are not homopolymers [e.g., PEG (8)], and (ii) different geometrical objects have very different R g/R e relationships (defined as G= R g 2/R e 2) such that G = 1.31 for a sphere, G = 12 for a rod, G = 6 for an ideal Gaussian chain with a scaling exponent v = 0.5, and G = 7.04 for a self-avoiding random walk, where v = 0.6. Consequently, when measuring only R g, there exist multiple solutions for R e depending on the shape of the IDP ensemble and vice versa. We showed that R g and R e are two related but genuinely distinct measures of IDP conformations. Away from the Gaussian chain limit, the two quantities can be readily decoupled from one another. Accordingly, the two measures together provide complementary albeit distinct insights regarding the dimensions of IDPs in the absence of denaturant. Using only one measure as opposed to both R e and R g leads to discrepant inferences because the models used to interpret either dataset end up imposing a homogeneity that appears to be unwarranted for IDPs in the absence of denaturant (1). We propose that the extent of decoupling between R g and R e depends on the amino acid sequence and solution conditions.

Overall, using ensemble-based numerical analysis methods that avoid simplifications for the conversion between R g and R e can help to minimize apparent discrepancies between SAXS and FRET (1,3, 7). Along these lines, Best et al. summarize a method that was used by Borgia et al. to integrate SAXS and FRET data (3). The approaches used by Borgia et al. (3) and Fuertes et al. (1) are complementary and the findings that emerge are in general agreement with one another. Both groups recognize the weaknesses of simplified homopolymer models for analyzing SAXS and FRET data. Neither group finds detectable evidence for systematic compacting effects of dyes. Minor positive and negative deviations in the inferred scaling exponents from FRET vis-à-vis SAXS are to be expected for finitesized heteropolymers, given the errors and features that are associated with both experimental methodologies.

To conclude, it is worth reiterating that our statement that “dyes are not the source of the discrepancy” results from direct measurements rather than conjecture. Further, our explanations for resolving the discrepant inferences between SAXS and FRET invoke a decoupling of R g and R e. This hypothesis is substantiated by numerical evidence for the decoupling that explains all the available data. Nonetheless, it remains a phenomenological model and demands careful theoretical and experimental scrutiny.

Acknowledgments

Funding: Supported by funding from the Gutenberg Research College, SFB1129, CellNetworks, and the European Research Council (SMPFv2.0) (E.A.L.); the European Union (H2020 grant iNEXT # 653706) and the Joachim Herz Foundation (D.I.S.); NIH grant (5R01NS056114 (R.V.P.); and the project “Structural dynamics of biomolecular systems” (CZ.02.1.01/0.0/0.0/15_003/ 0000447) from European Regional Development Fund (ELIBIO) (G.F.).

Footnotes

Author contributions

All authors contributed to data analysis and reanalysis. All authors co-wrote the manuscript.

Competing interests:

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Data and materials availability

The complete SAXS dataset discussed in (1) has been deposited to the Small-Angle Scattering Biological Database (SASBDB) (9) under the following accession codes: ASDEH2; SASDEJ2; SASDEK2; SASDEL2; SASDEM2; SASDEN2; SASDEP2; SASDEQ2; SASDER2; SASDES2; SASDET2; SASDEU2; SASDEV2; SASDEW2; SASDEX2; SASDEY2; SASDEZ2; SASDE23; SASDE33; SASDE43; SASDE53; SASDE63; SASDE73; SASDE83; SASDE93; SASDEA3; SASDEB3; SASDEC3.

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Data Availability Statement

The complete SAXS dataset discussed in (1) has been deposited to the Small-Angle Scattering Biological Database (SASBDB) (9) under the following accession codes: ASDEH2; SASDEJ2; SASDEK2; SASDEL2; SASDEM2; SASDEN2; SASDEP2; SASDEQ2; SASDER2; SASDES2; SASDET2; SASDEU2; SASDEV2; SASDEW2; SASDEX2; SASDEY2; SASDEZ2; SASDE23; SASDE33; SASDE43; SASDE53; SASDE63; SASDE73; SASDE83; SASDE93; SASDEA3; SASDEB3; SASDEC3.

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