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. 2020 Nov 24;117(48):30022–30023. doi: 10.1073/pnas.2007399117

Aspect ratio dependence of the ultimate-state transition in turbulent thermal convection

Xiaozhou He a,b,1,2, Eberhard Bodenschatz b,c,d,e,1,2, Guenter Ahlers f,1,2
PMCID: PMC7720176  PMID: 33234575

Iyer et al. (1) report heat (Nu) and momentum (Re) transport results for turbulent Rayleigh-Bénard convection (RBC) for a Prandtl number Pr=1 from direct numerical simulation (DNS) for a cylindrical sample of aspect ratio (diameter D/height H ) Γ=1/10. The data show the classic scaling Nu=0.0525Ra0.331 in the range 1010Ra1015. The authors emphasize that their data do not reveal a transition Rayleigh number Ra* to the RBC ultimate state (2, 3), but neglect to point out that sidewall stabilization, and thus Ra*, is expected to increase with decreasing Γ. Here, we point out that experimental Ra* values do indeed show a strong Γ dependence with Ra* well above 1015 for Γ=0.1.

Fig. 1 shows the Ra dependence of Nu/Ra0.331 for Γ=0.50 and 1.00 (46). The data are from experiments using compressed SF6 gas with Pr0.8 at Ra up to 1.1×1015. Each dataset reveals a transition range Ra1*RaRa2* of Nu(Ra). For RaRa1*, we found the classic scaling NuRaγeff with γeff=0.312 (0.321) for Γ=0.50 (1.00). For RaRa2*, we found γeff0.37 for both Γ, consistent with the predicted scaling for the ultimate state (2, 3). Over the transition range, γeff was close to 0.33. One sees that the transition range increased as Γ decreased. The values found for Ra1* and Ra2* were confirmed also by Reynolds number measurements (5, 7).

Fig. 1.

Fig. 1.

Reduced Nusselt number Nu/Ra0.331 as a function of Ra for Γ=0.50 (black circles) and 1.00 (blue diamonds). Solid lines denote power laws Nu=Nu0Raγeff, with γeff=0.37 and Nu0 adjusted to fit the data for Ra>Ra2* for each Γ. Dashed lines are the power-law fits to the data for Ra<Ra1*, with γeff=0.312 for Γ=0.50 (Upper) and γeff=0.321 for Γ=1.00 (Lower). Vertical dotted lines are Ra2*=8×1013 and 7×1014.

Fig. 2 shows the measured Ra1* and Ra2* as a function of Γ. While the Γ dependence of Ra1* is weak, Ra2* changes by one decade over the data range and can be described by the power law Ra2*=aΓb, with a=8.13×1013 and b=3.04. Extrapolating to Γ=1/10 indicates that the transition Ra is near 1017 for such a slender sample. A similar Γ dependence Ra*Γ2.5±0.5 was found in cryogenic experiments for Pr1.5 over the range 0.23Γ1.14 (8). However, the reported values of Ra* (also shown in Fig. 2), a transition Rayleigh number defined by Roche et al. (8), are much lower than our results. Extrapolating them to Γ=1/10, one finds that the transition should occur in the range 2×1013Ra*1014. This disagrees with the DNS result by Iyer et al. (1).

Fig. 2.

Fig. 2.

Ra1* (open symbols) and Ra2* (solid symbols) as a function of Γ. The black dashed line and red solid line represent the power function y=axb with the exponent b=0.40 and 3.04, respectively. Red stars are the Ra* data from ref. 8. The black solid line corresponds to Ra*Γ2.5. Vertical black solid line indicates the Ra range of the DNS data in ref. 1.

Thus, the conclusion by Iyer et al. (1) is incomplete, since they did not consider the strong influence of Γ on Ra*. For Γ1, a number of experiments (4, 5, 7, 9) have revealed that the transition occurs near Ra=1014, which is consistent with the prediction by Grossmann and Lohse (GL) (3). Note that the GL prediction does not apply for Γ much less than 1, since the parameters in the model are all from experimental data for Γ=1. Our results show that Ra2*Γ3.04, leading to a much higher transition Ra for a slender sample. For Γ=1/10, our data suggest that the ultimate-state transition will occur near Ra=1017, which is well above the Ra limit of the DNS data in ref. 1. That is why the authors found that “classic 1/3 scaling of convection holds up to Ra=1015.”

Acknowledgments

Supported by the Max Planck Society. X.H. acknowledges the support of the National Natural Science Foundation of China under Grants 11772111 and 91952101.

Footnotes

The authors declare no competing interest.

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