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. 2022 May 13;119(20):e2204067119. doi: 10.1073/pnas.2204067119

Reply to Weiss: Tree-ring stable oxygen isotopes suggest an increase in Asian monsoon rainfall at 4.2 ka BP

Bao Yang a,b,1, Chun Qin a, Achim Bräuning c, Timothy J Osborn d, Valerie Trouet e, Fredrik Charpentier Ljungqvist f,g,h, Jan Esper i, Lea Schneider j, Jussi Grießinger c, Ulf Büntgen k,l,m,n, Sergio Rossi o, Guanghui Dong b,p, Mi Yan q, Liang Ning q, Jianglin Wang a, Xiaofeng Wang a, Beixi Fan a, Suming Wang r, Jürg Luterbacher s, Edward R Cook t, Nils Chr Stenseth u,1
PMCID: PMC9171909  PMID: 35561221

Weiss (1) raises interesting points on our article (2). He observes that the Delingha tree-ring δ18O record matches KM-A speleothem δ18O record from the Mawmluh Cave in India, that defines the 4.2-ka event’s global-type stratum (3). This event is also manifested as a multicentennial drought in the Iranian Gol-E-Zard speleothem record (4). Weiss further argues that the Delingha record is also consistent with the 4.2-ka anomaly recorded in low-resolution proxy records from northern China despite inherent limitations of these proxies.

Our Delingha δ18O record shows a persistent transition following gradual drying that, instead, occurred during 4 ka to 3.5 ka. This is associated with generally wet conditions ca. 4.5 ka to 4.0 ka (Fig. 1), in contrast with the KM-A δ18O record. We thus do not observe such a close correspondence between the two records in Weiss’s (1) figure 1A and want to exercise caution in drawing conclusions based on a limited number of proxy records with considerable age uncertainties.

Fig. 1.

Fig. 1.

The Delingha tree-ring δ18O record (red line) and normalized speleothem δ18O records collected from different parts of continental Asia spanning 5 ka to 3 ka. To place the 4.2-ka event in high-resolution and high-precision context, we constrained our analyses to speleothem records with coverage of 5 ka to 3 ka. A regional composite for southern China is shown, which is derived by averaging the six speleothem δ18O series from Dongge Cave, Xianglong Cave, Wuya Cave, Sanbao Cave 43, Heshang Cave, and Shennong Cave using the Z-score method. Each of the six speleothem records has a temporal resolution better than 20 y, at least five U-Th ages, and dating precision higher than the 60-y average age error (2σ) in the 5- to 3-ka interval. Prior to averaging, each of the six records is first linearly interpolated annually, and then their long-term linear trends in the common period 5 ka to 3 ka are removed to highlight climate fluctuations on multidecadal to centennial timescales before normalization. See ref. 6 for details about each stalagmite record employed in the calculation. The Liu-li Cave in northern China and Kesang Cave (KS06-A-H) in western China speleothem δ18O records are intentionally included for comparison in that both records have a dating point around 4.2 ka (6). The 100-point low-pass filters are shown for Kesang Cave (KS06-A-H), Liu-li Cave, and southern China records. The Shennong Cave and Mawmluh Cave (ML.1) speleothem δ18O records have biannual and subannual resolution, and, therefore, we plot their unsmoothed series for comparison. All horizontal lines represent the long-term average calculated over the common period 5 ka to 3 ka. The vertical dashed blue line indicates the Middle to Late Holocene transition as defined by the Delingha δ18O record via trend-point analysis (2). The gray bar covers the period 3.97 ka to 4.26 ka that is demonstrated as the 4.2-ka event in the midlatitudes of the Northern Hemisphere by the Iranian Gol-E-Zard speleothem record (4).

To complement the four speleothem δ18O records presented by Weiss (1), we assembled a total of 24 additional records from eastern Asia and India covering Holocene hydroclimate dynamics. In western China, only one out of three speleothem records from Kesang cave, KS06-A-H (5), has a good dating accuracy to resolve centennial drought anomalies and shows dry climate conditions at 4.2 ka (see ref. 6). In northern China, all records except Dongshiya and Zhenzhu indicate an anomalously wet interval around 4.2 ka (6). Both exceptions are characterized by few and uncertain dating points and a coarse sampling resolution (6). In southern China, investigating the full set of records yields no clear picture (6). However, a composite based on six high-precision (Fig. 1) records shows generally wet conditions at 4.2 ka.

In India, two more-recent replicated speleothem δ18O records from Mawmluh Cave with exceptional chronologic constraints and high sampling resolution have challenged the interpretation of KM-A (6). One of these records, ML.1, shows wet conditions at 4.1 ka to 4.0 ka (7), and the subsequent long-term multicentennial drying is consistent with our Delingha δ18O record and with a long-term drying trend in a recent high-resolution speleothem δ18O record from Sahiya Cave in northern India (8).

In conclusion, our well-replicated Delingha δ18O record does not support a significant hydroclimate transition in our study region around 4.2 ka, or the notion that this rapid climate deterioration should be regarded as generalized climatic transition from the Middle to Late Holocene. There is the need for further development of accurate, replicated, and high-resolution proxy data, based on dense sampling, a mechanistic understanding of climatic controls, and representative chronological control points to elucidate the spatial–temporal dynamics of Holocene climate and cultural responses. Our Delingha δ18O record makes considerable progress toward those aims.

Acknowledgments

We thank Liangcheng Tan, Yanjun Cai, Xunlin Yang, and Gayatri Kathayat for providing part of the speleothem data used in this study. B.Y. is funded by the National Natural Science Foundation of China (Grants 42130511 and 41888101).

Footnotes

The authors declare no competing interest.

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